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  • Comment on Institutions Cause Identity Theft (May 22nd, 2009 at 11:49)

    Something that really bugs me is when a company calls me at my house on my phone number to talk to me about my account … and then insists on asking me some security questions to verify my identity.

    Hangon – how do I know that you are who you say you are? How about we verify YOUR identity first, and then I’ll give you my personal details.

  • Comment on Institutions Cause Identity Theft (May 28th, 2009 at 11:38)

    Wow, what a tirade- Telstra really pissed you off but why blame the government? It is most probably Telstra’s fault. Most companies who use personal info for identification give you a few choices (mother’s maiden name, pet name, your first school or place of birth etc.) so if Telstra chose to use your DOB without your permission why not dump then and move to another supplier?

    Amos

  • Hi Amos

    Yes it was a tirade. Thanks for responding.

    In Australia, New Zealand, UK, Canada and USA (so far possibly others), the use of personal data is becoming the default identification method for telephone conversations. This is not about Telstra or any one company, they all do it. These governments have passed “privacy laws” to regulate how companies deal with our personal data and government departments use the same personal information as an identity check..

    I see two fundamental problems.
    Firstly the assumption is that personal data is private and if someone knows it they must be legitimate. This is the basis of identity theft. Personal data is not private. So disclosing my personal information is now as bad as disclosing my bank account PIN. Nobody knows my PIN, lots of people know my birth date.

    Secondly personal data can’t be changed. You cannot change your birth date if too many people know it. If a database leak occurs from one institution, that data is common to all institutions. Once personal information is out you cannot put the genie back in the bottle.

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    • Michele Bain
      Comment on Institutions Cause Identity Theft (July 18th, 2011 at 12:46)

      Agree absolutely Paul. I thought it was just me getting pissed off with the DOB question. Like you I’ve occasionally wondered what I’m supposed to do once this information gets ‘out there’. Around 865 people now have the secret CVC number from the back of my credit card but at least I can change that. The other thing that bugs me, especially now that I’m becoming a grumpy old woman, is that I’m starting to feel a bit sensitive about having a pre-1960 (just) birthdate when the person at the other end of the phone was probably born in 1993. Is it my imagination or do they actually speak more slowly and loudly when explaining why I can’t speak to their supervisor?

      Agree with you too Sim. They ring me on my own phone number and then demand details about my identity. I just refuse now and tell them to put it in writing.

      Told you I’m getting grumpy…

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  • Let's be grumpy together

    Oh no Michele, I hadn’t considered snotty nosed call centre kids treating me like a child. My mum tells me it is an insufferable experience.

    What gets me is how often the caller acts as if I’m the one who is being unreasonable.

    I’m determined to fight this to the extent that I’m considering never giving my DOB out over the phone again in protest.

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